It's sometimes quite refreshing to go a while without having much to talk about. That's what has happened to me recently, hence my lack of blog posts these last seven days. The Farmer is back at work, Amy has been discharged from her ankle injury and I've decided to stop fretting about the ridiculous methods of social services. But if you're like me, you'll always find something that will niggle away at you, eating through your thick skin until it starts to gnaw at your insides. Heaven forbid anyone will be reading this who thinks I need to get a back-bone. I've been shot down in flames often for my opinion, but often is the case when someone else's opinion is far stronger than mine, yet they are responded with "LOL" or "I agree". If I'd have been a blogger way back in the late 70's/early 80's, I'd have had a lot to tell you. Back then I was a victim of bullies; they laughed at my sheltered upbringing and the fact I wasn't as streetwise as them. They taunted me for living in a decent area, in a nice house with good neighbours, for playing the violin and the piano, and for singing in the school choir. They made me feel stupid, ridiculed, lesser than them. I tried hard to fit in back then, really hard. So hard in fact that when I was in year two at High school (age 12/13), my mum spent many a day sat outside the head-teacher's office after I'd been caught smoking in the toilets or scrawling graffiti on outside walls, not to mention sitting at the back of a disruptive classroom, determined not to learn. High school wasn't my strongest era, it has to be said.
Yet now, at age 42, I still let people get to me when they talk to me from inside the circle, or clique as it's sometimes referred to. I stand on the edge willing them to let me in, watching as they chat amongst themselves as though I'm not there. It's what used to happen at school. I've witnessed it on the Internet often and when I do, the memories come flooding back. Of course, now I'm older and (perhaps) wiser so I'm able to deal with it better, but there are many times when I want to lash out, express my (not-so-polite) opinion, and I find myself backing away, afraid I'll be outcast like I was so many times all those years ago. Bullying in the school playground stays with you for life. You may think once you've left school, met the man/woman of your dreams, got married and had kids, and made a steady life for yourself that you will forget about those awful years you were made to feel inferior. But there will always be times throughout your life when the terrifying memories wash over you once more. I've learnt to understand the difference over the years between bullying and people just being nasty, but it doesn't make me feel anymore confident when faced with an awkward situation that has the potential of becoming a confrontation. Maybe I'm not streetwise or hip, maybe I have led a sheltered life, maybe I am different to you; but I'm a human being with feelings. I'm a mum and a wife and I work hard for a living. And what's more, I maybe a wuss, but I'm not a teenager anymore and have learnt that my opinion matters just as much as anyone's.
Interesting. You think you feel this way about cliques and circles because you were bullied but I feel what I perceive to be the same and yet I wasn't bullied (to a great extent, a little maybe). There are some circles and cliques that are exactly that and I think regardless of how intelligent or valid or interesting your opinion is they just don't want to listen. I tend to just give up on them and find the circles I feel more accepted and at home in when it is a social thing. This is it harder when it affects work and money, that's when it becomes a trial and can be quite upsetting. On the silver lining, at least home is quiet, allowing your head to worry about this sort of thing, now if you can move to tranquil headspace life could get really lovely, wouldn't that be great x
ReplyDeleteI guess I'm part of a few circles within the online community, especially concerning parent blogging where I love making a contribution. There are some circles I'd like to be a part of in my personal-home life, but this is where my lack of self-confidence comes in.
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ReplyDeleteI too was bullied at secondary school for....wait for it.....for being a size 8, they used to push me around the coridoors, trip me up, call me a lesbian and call me Twiggy! I hated every minute of it, now 10 years on...I still get that horrible feeling of feeling like my hearts racing and I can't breathe when I get into a spat at the school gates with other mums! It's not a nice feeling!
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I don't think I was ever a size 8! That is just plain despicable, to treat another human being like that makes me feel physically sick. Luckily, I don't do the school run and on the very few occasions I have, there haven't been any other parents about because virtually all the kids at Amy's school use taxi's and buses.
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DeleteI glad I finally found another blogger who lives in the countryside
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I don't think I was ever bullied at school, but oh, how I identify with the 'left out of the circle' feeling! I always hated going up to a group of girls - not wanting to interrupt a 'clique'! Yet I've always been a people person, and basically friendly. I think self confidence, or rather lack of it, has a lot to answer for...
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, it never stopped me, as a teacher, from facing a class full of adults with no qualms at all. But I still, in a social situation, hesitate to join in with a ready formed group...Conundrum, or what?
I definitely agree with you about the lack of self-confidence, it's been a problem for me for as long as I can remember, probably the reason why I was an easy target at school.
DeletePerhaps you are able to separate your work and social life relatively easy. I couldn't teach but mainly because I'd never consider myself intellectual enough (there I go again with that lack of self-confidence).
My real father was a gentleman to the world,smart and handsome, but behind closed doors he was a nasty man who often hit my mother. Even at my age, I still recoil when I hear a loud male voice. Sadly he went to an early grave and so I never knew him when I grew up so would never understand why he behaved like he did. Childhood traumas, does leave scars. But Kathryn, as I have become to know you, I see a friendly and kind person, one who is able to share and help others. Always keep you qualities in your sights because that is you and if others don't want you in their circle, they are the real loosers.
ReplyDeleteWe never know what goes on behind closed doors do we? Thank you for your kind words, Pauline. You and I have become good friends these last twelve months and that has been something I cherish.
DeleteHi, I also know what you mean. I wasn't really bullied as school, but never quite fitted in, I was never one of the 'in-crowd' - I suppose I didn't really want to be, but I did want to be taken seriously and I still do. I think there it is hard to break away from feelings that exist as a result of childhood experience, but also a lot about self-confidence, I guess the two are linked! Sometimes I get irritated about cliques and groups and not being accepted by them, but at other times I just think 'who cares' my views are valid and I will continue to share them. I'm the same age as you and have had a really difficult time in the last few years, but am now beginning to realise and find comfort in myself and to just go for it and stand up for what I think. That's partly why I've started writing my blog, but I'm also finding its helping me be more honest and outspoken with other aquaintances. Whatever your feelings are they are yours, no-one can take them away or tell you they are wrong. Keep writing and sharing - I like reading your blog and seeing the pictures of the chickens etc.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you; I often think "who cares" and then I start to worry because I know I do! Blogging is definitely a good way to get things off your chest and if I had more confidence I would get a lot more out there. And I'll publish a picture of the hens soon, just for you!
DeleteI know exactly how you feel, being different. At 42, we moved from the northeast to the southeast and the hostility I feel from people every time I open my mouth is palpable. One time, I was at the gas station getting gas, and some old man saw my license plates and told me to go back where I came from. They didn't want me down here. It's awful to be afraid of where you live, especially in a nice middle class neighborhood.
ReplyDeleteSo now if I have to go somewhere for my daughter at her school, I stand in a corner by myself and don't talk to anyone. I let them think I'm a snob, or what ever they want to think. I only speak when someone speaks to me. I don't try to be friendly first only to be stabbed in the back later. I learned that lesson already.
That's awful, Anne. There are some very petty-minded people about. I haven't witnessed it first hand, but my friend has been at the end of dispute in this area and it's very disheartening. It's their loss that they don't speak to you, always remember that.
DeleteWhat a wonderfully written post. Child or adult, bulling can affect our emotional state. I'm fortunate I haven't experienced it lately, but I've seen some awful examples of it online.
ReplyDeleteMe too, Talli. I'd sometimes love to pitch in with my size 10's, but I always find myself backing away as confrontation just makes me feel uncomfortable.
DeleteTake what you like and leave the rest is my motto. There will always be groups of people who get on well and enjoy patting each other on the back and if they upset me then I tend to steer clear. There are plenty of great, genuine people out there too and you are one of those CJ.
ReplyDeleteMich x
Thank you, Michelle. I've got involved with some incredibly lovely groups over the years, but equally have been put off by some groups as they have formed that wall around them just for the ones who are of the same opinion as them.
DeleteFirst, let me say that I love your blog. I'm a long time reader but not a prolific poster. I love your honesty and emotion that comes from your blog. I, too, was bullied and taunted in school. I was a book nerd and was overweight, not to mention that I had to wear those glasses that change from light to dark in the sun because of my sensitive eyes. Oh yes, there was plenty to pick on back then. Whenever I am feeling especially vulnerable (especially after a few too many whiskies), then those hurt feelings come out from way back when. I hate giving so much energy to those bullies especially since they have long-forgotten about what they did to me. Oh, but that was nearly 40 years ago and the little girl in me still hurts. We are only human. We have good days and bad. I love that you share your life with the blogosphere and you have inspired me to revive my blog. Go forth and be yourself, because no one else can! Hugs.
ReplyDeleteDebbie, you're lovely to say that, thank you. Those light/dark glasses are immensely trendy in my opinion - my sister wears them, designer ones that she pays a fortune for, and they're gorgeous!
DeleteThe feelings never go away do they, even when we think it's safe to come out of the water, there's always a crafty shark swimming nearby.
Having been bullied leaves it's mark, even later in life when you think you're over it, I know. xx
ReplyDeleteThanks for commenting, Pearl. I hope your experience wasn't too difficult x
Deletei hear you...i was bullied as a child and it def is not fun...and left out...older (not necessarily wiser) i am pretty vocal when i see it---which may not be a good thing, but i feel better afterward...lol
ReplyDeleteBeing vocal is definitely not a bad thing, Brian. I wish I could say more but I'm one of those people who thinks of the right thing to say when it's far too late!
DeleteBravo! I feel so exactly the same way. Its so nice to hear this being said. Thank you :)
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DeleteYes, your opinion matters. It matters a lot. Each of us is part of the whole. It is those who bullied you who need to get their acts together so harmony prevails. I detest bullying. Bullies are sick people.
ReplyDeleteI have no idea what those bullies are doing now, though I know one of them lives on her own and keeps herself to herself. One of the others has a severely disabled child and moved abroad, but I have heard various rumours about her that aren't very nice. The other girl, the one I dream about often, I haven't a clue what she's doing but she was a prize bitch and I wouldn't be surprised if she still is.
DeleteIt seems when I give My opinion, people tend to run...I was bullied in school as well and now find myself quite the loner...
ReplyDeleteI see a trend in the comments here...Isn't it sad those of us that have experienced "mean people" have put up brick walls? Wow...
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Yes, it is quite bizarre, Donna. I think the majority of people who will comment on this blog post will be those who have also been bullied, or at least experienced it in some form.
DeleteOh my love, you are such an honest, lovely blogger. I can't bear that you are made to feel like that.
ReplyDeleteKM x
Thank you for those kind words. Sometimes I think if I was a bit tougher I wouldn't feel like this, but I always refuse to lower my standards!
DeleteIt doesn't matter how old we are, I think there will always be 'cliques' in life. It's interesting that you say you were bullied because you came from a nice background, good home with extra-curricular activities. As parents, we strive to provide these for our children, thinking we are doing them a favour when perhaps we are actually doing them a diservice in the long-run. I too was bullied as I went to church and came from a 'nice' family. Kids can be horrible. As adults it's easier to bat it off but I also think we carry some of it with us into adulthood.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't say we were doing them a disservice, just doing what's best for them. The fault lies purely with the bullies and, in my opinion, their upbringing. Many bullies have low self-esteem themselves which usually comes from a lack of attention at home. Kids can be horrid, and as many learn from copying the bullying becomes a vicious circle.
DeleteGood for you! I'm often on the outside, but then I'm just as often in a group, and I hope none of my groups make people feel like this. I suppose it is inevitable, but I try to break in if I want to these days, and I welcome anyone who does the same. We are all different, and that's a good thing. I can learn stuff from everyone, and I do try to open up to others, but I suppose we often just stick with people we know, because it makes us feel comfortable.
ReplyDeleteI've been a member of several groups over the years and some I have walked away from because of their awful cliques. I stick with the ones I'm comfortable with now and feel I can contribute to.
DeleteFrom reading your blog you come across as friendly, forthright and totally dedicated to your family and you have a large blog following for a reason. You shouldn't worry about fitting in with certain groups of bloggers, they should worry about fitting in with you! I agree that it can be difficult to enter conversations on twitter but at the same time I find it much easier to jump in and get involved online than in real life (although I do tend to find that once I've pushed myself into trying to get involved - in real life or online - people are generally friendly. It's summing up the courage to make the first move that can be the hardest thing)
ReplyDeleteI've been feeling a bit bored with Twitter recently, there are so many cliques on there even though the people in these cliques still want (and expect) you to follow them. Not many people interact with each other and there doesn't seem to be any personalisation like there is on FB. I do try to fit in and I often "butt in" on conversations, but I never feel comfortable doing it. I think you need to have a lot of self-confidence to just walk into a conversation wherever you are.
DeleteIt's interesting that you found that. I've always found Twitter more friendly & personal than FB. That just seems to be people publishing photos or republishing the same joke over & over. Maybe it does depend on who you follow. I have at least 2 groups. funny, friendly people & the more political tweeters. Some fit in both groups, but not many. (I have been told off for getting political when Twitter apparently should be "just for fun". I actually think Twitter is what you make it. Being able to follow or unfollow is helpful. Also I do butt in sometimes (If I don't know them well, I may say "excuse me" when I do) Sometimes you are welcomed, other times ignored. The trick is not to take it too personally. It may just be that they are too caught up in the original discussion.
DeleteYou are bound to disagree with some. I've had some splendid arguments with people where we have both emerged better informed & still friends and others where I have just needed to walk away.
I think it's like the advice given further down in the comments. Assume the best of people, most are great. Unfollow those who aren't.
That's really good advice, littlemavis. I think you're spot on when you say Twitter is what you make it. I follow about 670 people but only interact with a small fraction of those. But I follow many of them because I love their tweets, not necessarily because I want to engage in conversation with them. But my issue is, I joined Twitter in particular because I wanted to chat to people, lots of different people with different views, different experiences etc. Yet I feel easier and more comfortable doing that on FB, especially with the parent group I'm a part of. I also think when you lack in self-confidence you will take things too personally, and that's just something that I need to change.
DeleteHi hun, I love your posts. I have nominated you for a beautiful blogger award. Have a look at my blog http://sutleress.blogspot.co.uk for all the details. I hope this cheers your day x
ReplyDeleteYou are lovely! When you come to visit, it always cheers my day xx
DeleteI think we (those with low self esteem) often read more into situations than there is. Women at the school gates chat amongst themselves and I often feel there is no place for me. But on the occasion where I have actually made an effort to chat and fit in, they chat right back. There is no outcast. It might be worth a try.
ReplyDeleteDo you know, I have taken your advice today and rang my daughter's friend's mum to arrange a playdate for next week. I don't know the family and do feel a bit nervous but it's a start. So thank you for coming here and commenting today - you've helped me a lot xx
DeleteI was teased a lot at school, which I think can be put under the bullying heading. I couldn't handle it then & went through a tough time.
ReplyDeleteI definitely have more courage now. It has come over the years and I refuse to play the victim.
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I admire you, Maggie. I go through fits and starts where I refuse to play the victim, but often I retreat into my cave to get away from awkward confrontation.
DeleteI never experienced bullying from the adults around me. My first experience was when I was in the 4rd: an older kid would intercept me as I walked to school and demand my lunch money.
ReplyDeleteHi, Nick. Some kids are quite cruel; it does make you wonder if their upbringing is to blame or society as a whole.
DeleteYou might have felt like a wuss in the past (didn't we all?) but now you are strong, not necessarily (sp?) tough, but strong enough to shake it off. Don't let the buggers grind you down. Get on with it and don't pay attention to the nay-sayers - difficult, but if you can, it makes a big difference. Remind me of this, sometime in the future :-)
ReplyDeleteI will remind you, Jo. I guess I am strong enough to shake it off but it does get to me from time to time :)
DeleteI was bullied in school most of my school life. I had no friends and was the child in the class no one wanted to sit next to or be friends with. You might think that I must have been or done something that warranted this (why else would no one want to know you) but no I was just a child. Bright, intelligent and normal.
ReplyDeleteThe effects of bullying never leave you and I just like you feel on the outside of all things.
For me the biggest problem with bullying is that it never seems to change. You hear the same stories from people older and younger than myself. Not all schools in my day had bullying, as not all schools today have bullying.
I have come to believe that bullying is teacher led, either because the ethos of the school perpetuates it or individual teachers do. When a teacher bully's a child however subtle the rest of the class know it. If that is combined with weak teachers or weak teaching staff who cannot deal with bullying. We have all heard stories with victims of bullying being the focus of any resolution often leaving them feeling they are to blame. this allows bullying to thrive.
You cannot have a situation where one set of people are in control of another and then allow them to wash their hands of responsibility for the end result.
I remembered being bullied by one person in particular during my primary school years. Then, secondary school and it repeated itself. If you didn't have a "family" or had any imperfection, you were the target. I survived those years and formed a great circle of friends who, like me, were on the outside looking in at the "cool" group.
ReplyDeleteThis past school year, my oldest grandson has had a terrible time. Heads were changed (or as we call them here principals) and this one targeted him at the beginning of the year saying she knew he was trouble. He's not perfect, far from it, but he's not the evil kid she's made him out to be.
I'm stopping now because I don't want to be sued for libel or slander. I've probably said too much about my grandson's situation already.